Well I went to visit her [kuia], and this is a rest home where there may well be [other Māori], but I did not see any other Māori… And so, I went to visit her, and I said, ‘Nan, I could hear you when [I] was out at the reception.’ She was holding court…. After lunch she had her knitting, she had her crafts with her, she was talking with some other residents of the rest home and they were just waiting for the music lady to come along for a quiz. So, I said to her, ‘Nan, tell me what you’re doing every day?’ And she said, ‘We have exercises at 9 o’clock. I make jolly sure I’m up, dressed and ready to go. I’m down here for exercises, I participate in everything.’ She, a lady that has been involved with family and community, and, and I just think it was an amazing way to heal for her. She eventually came home, and I said to her, ‘How you doing? How [did] you [feel] at the end of your time in respite? How was that, in the Pākehā world, for you?’ She said, ‘Well, I came to the conclusion [that] I’m not ready to go into care full time, I would like to still be at home. And I know that I can’t do too much, I have to learn to accept some help. No, I enjoyed it.’