That is my first and foremost is to the Lord. He guides what comes out of our mouths so long as it is pono (true), tika (correct). He guides us and me especially because, as you say, I have been working in that area for a while. And, you know you don't look at them as being māuiui (sick). You look at them as a person, you know? You're there visiting a person and they are alive. So, the kōrero (talk) is about what they've done or ‘what would you like, can I get you something to eat and I get you a cup of tea?’ Connect. And, then they go, ‘oh Whaea (formal address for female), I want some kaimoana (seafood).’ You know and you always hear that story. Everybody wants that the taste of kaimoana, and all it is just a little bit. You know they’ve been out there fishing for hours come back with this big fish and they only want the juice, little bit of juice and they’re happy. And those are the things that we try and do for our people, you know, that's māuiui (sick), that's, yeah, nearly time, especially when they want that because you know ‘oh Lord they are really coming.’
This is in me; I'm not saying it out to them I'm saying, ‘Lord I know’. And I guess since I've been up [name of place] here it's more so. And more so since, I've grown since I've started that (name of trust) because [the name] means to walk arm in arm together. And if I am ahead of them somethings wrong, you should all be equal. And to be treated like equal, that's what I believe in. So, you know that's my whakaaro (thoughts). And then I get the lead from Arena [husband] because he's my kaumātua, he’s my boss… he is the man and he is our kaumātua for Ngāti [name] (tribe from place). Unless he asks me a question or asks me something, I will answer, but I don't interfere with what [he does]; but we both know our mahi with our people who aren't well, but treat them as human beings as they still are.